Self-maintained means the suppressor can be disassembled and maintained by the end user. 03-02-15, 13:55 #2. What if, since the threads are the same, you used your centerfire rifle suppressor, meant for .223/5.56, on your rimfire rifle? If you don’t clean it out, your suppressor will eventually turn into a solid tube of lead and carbon. Yes I also understand almost every rifle suppressor manufacturer says not to clean sealed rifle cans, as they supposedly self cleaning. I’ve read anecdotes about rifle suppressors with over 100,000 rounds through them with no cleaning and no decrease in performance. Attach the suppressor to the weapon and fire 5-10 rounds of live ammunition through the suppressor to expel loosened carbon in the sealed section of the suppressor. There’s always an exception. As a general rule, higher caliber silencers don’t need to be cleaned/maintained. You can do the same thing with your sealed suppressors. Pistol calibers and .22LR are considered low-pressure ammo. I have used this on some of my suppressor that have seen high volume shooting. But people like to take their suppressors apart and clean them and a lot of .30 cal suppressors are sealed and welded units. All Rights Reserved. A friend suggested pouring carb cleaner in a bread pan and soaking for 24 hours. Know what your suppressor is made of and choose appropriate cleaning aids. Clean the suppressor in an open space, and you must get rid of the used solvent in a way not harming the environment. If you have a suppressor cranked onto your muzzle, and are loath to remove it, and simply must clean your bore, use a cotton swab that is a threaded-on rod attachment. [Last Edit: 11/20/2013 6:58:28 AM EST by Tirador223], [Last Edit: 11/20/2013 11:07:01 AM EST by tony_k], [ARFCOM NEWS] TX Rep To BAN Private Sales? You must wear gloves while cleaning it. The overwhelming majority of rifle suppressors can’t even be disassembled. + Franklin Armory Sues Over Patent. The stuff is nasty on the hands and I guess, on raw carbon steel. We fire an average of 3,000 rounds a weekend, we hosted 5 camps, and use up to 8 suppressors. This video is about How to Clean a Suppressor Silencer Can. If you have a sealed suppressor you shoot a lot of unjacketed bullets through then eventually you’ll need to get it opened and cleaned. If you want to talk about a specific silenced rifle or pistol, it is best to do that in the rifle or pistol section for that brand. The high pressures blast out the old carbon leaving a light coating of new carbon. Most notably, the Griffin Optimus and Alpha suppressors. Pistol suppressors are similar to rimfire cans. Otherwise, scrub everything clean like you would your pistol. This meant that your NFA invesment had a limited lifespan. If cleaning a pistol suppressor with some type of piston system, pay attention to the instructions as you will likely be asked to grease some portion of that piston system. Wear gloves and work in a ventilated area. Since “soaking” would need a lot of solvent, I seal one end of the can and fill the suppressor. proceed with caution. They usually mention the solvent to be used. Typical cleaning with SUPPRESSOR X® calls for the solution to be sprayed on suppressor parts, left to soak for approximately 30-minutes and then simply wiped off or washed off. Since “soaking” would need a lot of solvent, I seal one end of the can and fill the suppressor. Unlike suppressors made of some other materials, our all-titanium silencers can be cleaned very effectively without taking them apart, by using one of two methods: (1) drop it in an ultrasonic cleaner for a few minutes, or (2) use the widely-known "vinegar and peroxide" method. You will have built up residues inside of the suppressor, residues that cannot be easily cleaned out. They claim it weakens the aluminum. What this means to most shooters is a user-serviceable .30 cal suppressor isn’t really needed. Cleaning sealed suppressors If you have a sealed suppressor — one you can’t open yourself — you can soak it in solvent. So, in general, you can use the same cleaning solvents for both. Gemtech pistol suppressors want similar grease on the spring/piston area. If you really want to clean your sealed suppressor, call the manufacturer and see what they recommend. They cannot be dismantled; therefore, cleaning them is not easy. However, it’s important to avoid damaging the suppressor itself and its components, which (unfortunately) is easily achieved when utilizing certain toxic chemicals and abrasive devices.As mentioned in last week’s post, rimfire cans are the main culprits in terms of dirtiness due to the filthy, unja… Anyone have any recommendations or experience cleaning suppressors? Cleaning should always be performed using directions provided by each individual suppressor manufacturer. Second, don't go using aggressive solvents when you do clean. Definitely make sure your suppressor is thoroughly dry of solvent before use. These pressures are roughly half that of common rifle cartridges which are 55,000-60,000 psi. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Cleaning a sealed suppressor. What does the manufacturer recommend about cleaning it? However with that having been stated always follow the manufactures recommended cleaning practices. It's best to clean the baffles before the lead builds up too much as it will take much longer to get the lead off. AAC is just one example. Advanced Armament Corp. (AAC) states that their sealed rifle suppressors can handle up to 30,000 rounds without any decrease in sound reduction. Until recently most rimfire and almost all pistol suppressors were sealed only to get heavier and louder the more they were used. Suppressors are also often painted with Cerakote, so double check the coating and make sure your solvent won’t hurt that either. That way it will always tighten onto the muzzle aligned with the bore, and to the same spot. That being said, they do experience some degree of buildup, and they state that a solvent bath is a common way to clean them. If you have a sealed suppressor — one you can’t open yourself — you can soak it in solvent. Is there a better way or is this a pretty good method? It's called "the dip"...and yes. Unless I imagined it, I was advised to use hydrogen peroxide as a soaking liquid to remove built-up lead on the baffles of a sealed AWC suppressor (with the usual warnings about the lead soup you'd wind up with). If any are damaged or frayed, replace them. As always, follow the instructions for your specific suppressor. A monocore is a little simpler. This is a good point to double check all your threads for cleanliness and serviceability. They may be stuck or hard to push. And don't use it on Aluminum....since you didn't specify which can it was. That being said, they do experience some degree of buildup, and they state that a solvent bath is a common way to clean them. If they still won’t come out, double check the instructions and make sure you’re going at it from the correct side, otherwise lightly and carefully tap the dowel with a hammer until they come out. The biggest issue with .22 suppressors and why they need to be cleaned so often is lead buildup. My suppressor has gained weight - an ounce of carbon. This just gives you a visual of how well it works. This repeats with every shot, so not enough sticks to create significant build-up. The best answer is always to check the manual and/or contact the manufacturer. Hoppes #9, CLP, acetone, paint thinner, soapy water, these options will aid in breaking up/removing the carbon without damaging your suppressor. Nomad47 Either way, it’s still recommended to clean them often, otherwise, they too can end up like the suppressor pictured above. Hopefully, that answered some of your questions about cleaning a suppressor. To reassemble, again, FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS. All threads need to be cleaned thoroughly. If he is, he'll tell you. Use an appropriate solvent that is made for dissolving carbon and lead deposits while cleaning your suppressor. As far as cleaning, as I said before it takes about 20 minutes to completely clean 6 baffles with my blast cabinet...it's like using an eraser. A current thread on Silencer Talk documents the use of “The Dip” on a rimfire suppressor with approximately 400 rounds clocked since the last cleaning. Considering most are sealed units, the ability to break them down and service this category simply doesn’t exist. Grab a wooden dowel (I’m using the plastic handle of my nylon brush) for added leverage to push them out. Lower pressure suppressors like .22 and pistol calibers build up a lot of carbon and lead fouling. Quick video on how to clean your suppressor. For sealed designs, the product should be sprayed inside the can If he isn't, you don't want to embarrass him. Be careful with (or avoid) Simple Green. Lead bullets aren’t as common in pistol cartridges so lead fouling isn’t quite as bad. It just takes a rag to wipe them clean,no scrubbing or rubbing required on suppressors that come apart like the Varminter 3.0. As for sealed suppressors, cleaning should be done according to the provided manual. I read a good way to clean any sealed suppressor is to use half mineral spirits and ATF solution, soak it over night, use a compressor to blow out the residue, and wait a second day to use the suppressor. There are a few exceptions to this rule. Chances are, they’ll say “don’t worry about it.”. I soaked mine in the cleaner for 30 minutes and blew it out with my air compressor and WOOHOO clean as new.. now onto the Stainless cans... gonna have to order more now hahahaha … This type of device will be found on other pistol suppressors as it is designed to aid in the function of firearms with moving barrels, like pistols. Unless you bake the suppressor to dry it out (and do not… This can be critical with baffle style suppressors as they likely need to be stacked in a specific way. On sealed cans like my Thunder Beast 30-P1's,I just soak the whole thing in the Chem-Dip,and then stand them up on end and drain for … I built a PVC tube with one end sealed and the other sealed with a threaded cap, fill it with Kroil and soak my sealed suppressors or integral suppressed barrels for a couple days then blow them out with my air compressor. Very dirty. Then rinse it and repeat until it doesn’t look like any more carbon will come out. Federalist shares the lessons he learnt about cleaning .22 suppressors … This is a big mistake for a .22LR suppressor, and here’s why: .22 rimfires are very dirty. Cleaning Sealed Suppressors If you have a sealed suppressor — one you can’t open yourself — you can soak it in solvent. They Said It Could'nt Be Done...Optics 1 ECOTI Latest Fusion Available Commercially from TNVC! These pressures determine how clean your suppressor stays. This applies to recommended cleaning supplies as well as the disassembly and reassembly instructions. © 2018 Concealed PAtriot All Rights Reserved, WSJ: NRA Has Sued Long-Time Advertising Firm Ackerman McQueen, Coumo’s Reproductive Health Act Of 2019 Now Sanctions Murder, Jewels of Wisdom from Court Finding California Magazine Ban Unconstitutional, UK Bans Lever Release Action and ‘MARS’ Non-Semiautomatic Rifles, 10 Ruger Mini-14 and Mini Thirty Accessories That Are Actually Worth the Money, Gun Review: Savage Axis II XP in .223 Remington, Calm Down, the ATF Has Not Ruled That Your AR or AK Pistol is an NFA Regulated Item, Michelle Obama’s Mother Dies, Leaves Inheritance to ‘My Son Michael’. Sealed suppressors for rifles pretty much don’t need cleaning. They don’t really need to be cleaned at all. Rimfire suppressors get dirty. Just curious as to how you clean a sealed suppressor when the time comes. What then? Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. They should be cleaned every 300-500 rounds, or after every range session. A nylon brush is my go-to for all my cleaning, especially aluminum parts. At most, you are left with a thin amount of fouling at any given time, but physics dictates that fouling just doesn’t have a … Because of the wide variety of suppressors on the market right now, I will be speaking mostly in generalities. If there is stubborn carbon buildup, a small piece of wood or stiff plastic works well to scrape it off without any risk of scratching or damaging the parts. Even if you run jacketed bullets, it is still recommended to clean these suppressors just as often. Never ask a man if he is from Virginia. Here I am cleaning AAC’s Ti-RANT 45-M suppressor. Something like CLP will be your safest bet no matter what. Yes I understand there is a suppressor sub section, it gets decent traffic there but wanted to get a broader opinion on this subject than the standard response. + FL Ammo Background ? I put 333 winchester bulk pack and 100 remington subsonics through it since the last cleaning Suppressors are often made from aluminum, stainless steels, titanium, and Inconel. Ultrasonic cleaners MAY be an option, but some makers don’t recommend it. Have you donated to your local volunteer fire department lately? If you do clean your can, remember that carbon, lead and solvents are not good for you. If the seal is good enough, you can shake it up a bit to really try to knock some carbon free. I start at the muzzle end and remove the A.S.A.P piston system. It takes longer for me to clean a handgun than it does to service my suppressor. Don’t buy a rimfire suppressor you can’t open to lubricate and clean. Next, remove the end caps and push out the baffles (or monocore). But that’s really all you can do. Make sure it’s an appropriate solvent for your can’s materials/finishes used. This interferes with the path of the bullet’s flight and can cause baffle strikes and other bad things. If the carbon/lead fouling gets bad enough, it’s possible for it to obstruct the bore. Pay special attention to the threads. Improper assembly can make for a BAD day. Advanced Armament Corp. (AAC) states that their sealed rifle suppressors can handle up to 30,000 rounds without any decrease in sound reduction. Rifle suppressors don’t and won’t necessarily require any cleaning. AAC says “no” to ultrasonic cleaners on their aluminum suppressors. Unless I imagined it, I was advised to use hydrogen peroxide as a soaking liquid to remove built-up lead on the baffles of a sealed AWC suppressor (with the usual warnings about the lead soup you'd wind up with). Check all O-rings for serviceability, especially in piston systems like the A.S.A.P. Failure to do so may void any warranty that comes with your suppressor. Cleans carbon and is a cheap, readily available cleaning product. One option is to use one of the ultrasonic cleaners (which we’ll get to shortly) but then you have liquid left inside. As always, consult your suppressor’s manual or contact the manufacturer directly for the specifics on your suppressor. Now I'm far from a suppressor guru, but my understanding is that centerfire suppressors require essentially no cleaning. You should not use a “vibrating tumbler” while cleaning a suppressor. They create chamber pressures that commonly range from 25,000-35,000 psi (plenty of exceptions, I know). Brush the attachment areas of the suppressor with the supplied cleaning brush to remove any carbon buildup, then rinse the suppressor in clean water after brushing. If any solvents were used, make sure they have fully evaporated before reassembling. In general, they should be cleaned every 750 rounds or so. Most sealed suppressors are self cleaning. Conclusion. Since “soaking” would need a lot of solvent, I seal one end of the can and fill the suppressor. Perdona a tus enemigos pero recuerda sus nombres. Here is a very informative video of how to clean Sealed cans. That means even a .30 cal suppressor that isn’t user-serviceable could be cleaned with a bath in solvent and a brush. Suppressor maintenance is a must, but overall the process of keeping a can polished and in working order is simple. It can damage uncoated aluminum if left to soak. For decades NFA manufacturers have told their customers that you will never need to clean a suppressor. Below I’ll cover if and when you should clean your suppressors plus some common methods of doing so. Want to clean your suppressor? Part 1 or 2 Since Bowers Group will re-core their suppressors for just $20 I figured I really don’t have to worry about cleaning them. As we mentioned a moment ago, the high-pressure buildup inside a suppressor blasts away any fouling. Here I’m referring to the ammo your firearm is chambered for. Most of that talk was coming from the guy's who actually do the jail breaking. After use, barrel, suppressor, muzzle brake etc, rinse with light oil. Copyright © 1996-2020 AR15.COM LLC. There are also plenty of reports of ultrasonic cleaners ruining Cerakote and other finishes. And I see that Amazon sells cans of carb cleaner that you dip parts in. AR15.COM is the world’s largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. This means less room for the gasses to calm down, so the suppressor won’t work as well. When it comes to servicing a silencer, there are several options at your disposal to reach the end goal: a high-performing, fully-functioning can. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. 223to45. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. Re: How to clean a sealed suppressor? Follow your can’s instructions. It’s not always necessary depending on your can and the caliber you’re shooting. That’s around 2,000 rounds of Federal Automatch 22LR (we are switching to CCI Standard this fall) through every suppressor. General silencer discussion. Suppressors are made of materials similar, if not identical, to firearms. So it is better to follow the rules. It's peroxide mixed with vinegar. I’ve used CLP, so I don’t need to wait. We recommend cleaning every 200-300 rounds when possible. This suppressor specifies a small amount of lithium grease or anti-seize compound on the rear cap O-ring. Seems to keep them pretty clean for me. Make sure it’s an appropriate solvent for your can’s materials/finishes used. 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